C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Game

[bsammy]

so... is it ok to update to new dash, and only play older games? or is there still a way to be detected? (liteon drive 7000 series) thanx

[CoFree]

we ar not sure
the ap25 check
is a check for a backup disc
the console may log the fact that its played a backup
we just dont know

i think u guys will know its going to take 2 months or more for the lt+ comes out!!!!!!!!!!

im not sure about that man
yes it could take that long or it could be much faster

[trailz]

I would like a better way of determining if games do the new checks. Fable III? Black Ops? Wave 7/8/9?

@bsammy: I wouldn't recommend updating if you don't have a kinect. The new dash is hideous! It looks like a text file. Not sexy.

[CoFree]

I wouldn't recommend updating if you don't have a kinect.

that is the best statement make so far

[moonknight]

But...
Canna connect to live if you don't update.

[bsammy]

But...
Canna connect to live if you don't update.

no, im in the same boat. really debating if i should update to new dash,got kinect and cant even try it out. i think ill wait for lt+, just not worth risking getting banned. and from what im hearing from the more exp. members, if youve got a liteon drive or benq, definetly DO NOT UPDATE till we get more info from c4eva......... patience is a vertue

[scars72]

I for one was waiting to update my elite BenQ with FW Lt 1.2 until the new FW came out but it seems kids couldn't wait for the Kinect.So I updated to new dash 2 days ago and everything seems fine.I played Back Ops last night for about 3hours with no problems.Just turned on 360 and no problems.I am staying away from the newer games besides Black Ops From the research I have done seems Black Ops does not do ap25 check,as of right now.I wouldn't update unless you have kids nagging you about getting the Kinect.If our 360 gets banned I am taking my kids allowance for 3 weeks to buy a new 360

[scars72]

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[bsammy]

I for one was waiting to update my elite BenQ with FW Lt 1.2 until the new FW came out but it seems kids couldn't wait for the Kinect.So I updated to new dash 2 days ago and everything seems fine.I played Back Ops last night for about 3hours with no problems.Just turned on 360 and no problems.I am staying away from the newer games besides Black Ops From the research I have done seems Black Ops does not do ap25 check,as of right now.I wouldn't update unless you have kids nagging you about getting the Kinect.If our 360 gets banned I am taking my kids allowance for 3 weeks to buy a new 360

it always goes back to the kids!!! i feel you

[GRASSASS]

im still online too (orig codbo tho) with new dashboard and all my old backups still fine and unflagged using Xval......long may it last iv been banned twice in 3 yrs stayed clear of getting fable3 (not my ting anyway-lucky)
it would be the end of the cat n mouse stuff, if that damned ap2.5 check WAS different for each game.

[chrislfc]

If anyone's worried about the update i would go back to stock also my friend has been on black ops since it came out he has the original rip to the hard drive and using the backup to boot up he's been ok so far will let you's know if he gets banned

[JUVY]

put my stock liteon drive back in and updated and been online every day playen cod so far so good..ill reply if i get banned to any 1....

[technoe]

Just to put my 2 cents in. I've updated to the new dash and have been playing Black Ops since day one, hour one. So far so good. I'm running a lite-on 7000 series with lt 1.1. This is in no way saying that it's safe, but I've not been banned yet. I also have a second 360 running a benq/spoofed as a hitachi with lt 1.1 that has been updated as well and still no issues. I will let you know the moment I get banned, if I indeed do.

[trailz]

This forum has some interesting information.

http://www.forums.xbox360-content.com/s ... xplanation

To, summarize: The AP2.5 checks are not on the disc in the normal sense; an AP2.5 game merely requests the check from the console. The check it self is implemented in the dashboard and drive firmware. Unfortunately, the article gets a little contradictory here. It says there's no way to determine if a game does the check without booting it. However, it also mentions that a tool called XexTool can check if a game will request the check.

*** Call of Duty: Black Ops DOES NOT do AP2.5 check! ***
*** Fable III DOES NOT do the AP2.5 check! The flag is present, but the value is not correct. ***

Also, it isn't mentioned in the link, but I've seen reports that Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood is doing the AP2.5 check. It forces the update to the Kinect dash.

[scars72]

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