Hey Guys I'm looking to flash my 360 today!!

[360fifa]

Where can i get the ck3 pro? Didn't know i needed something else, though there would be a another way apart from having to buy something.

[ncaaplayer4]

Have a look here http://www.modchip.ca/store/home.php?cat=284" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
You need a ck3 and probe or something like that to get the key
as far as I know.

[360fifa]

THx man. So wat if i connect everything up to my pc without the ck3 and probe, would I be able to flash it without the key, or is the identifier and inquiry .bins files? Or are they needed for the flash. Where I live I wont be getting that order until about the next 2 months.

Thx
Ronaldo

[CoFree]

you MOST have a cke pro/lite with a probe (or something like it)
or
solder the r707 point and build your own max32 comm port adapter.
that is the only way to dump/flash a lite-on.

[360fifa]

Thx Cofree, is there a tut for bilding the max32? I would prefer to do it, i cant wait for 2 mnts. And my bro is very good at soldering. I'll just explain what he needs to solder. Is it the same procedure with other 360 drives or just the lite-on? Cuz I have a friend who as a 360 and he wants to know if its the same process, i'm yet to check the drive tho.

Thx
Ronaldo

[CoFree]

have a read over this thread it should get you on the path.
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no the lite-on is the only one you have to do this way.

[360fifa]

Thx man i'll read and if they are any questions i'll post. Thx for the help so far guys.

Thx
Ronaldo

[360fifa]

Ok, I have read the thread and to be honest I appreciate the hard work that these guys went through to get to the stage that its at now. I want to buy it to be honest, i would just to show my support. What they did were amazing!!

My only prob is as stated before i dnt own a credit card and therefore won't be able to purchase 1 online, I have a friend in the state who I was planning on sending some funds in order to purchase the ck3 pro and probe. I would have to Western Union it and have him purchase it and send it down which as i said would take about 2 mnts before i get it.

I was going through couple threads and came up with this post by cofree, in the pic the part to solder is the 2 holes at R707? Thats it? If so when I connect my lite-on to my onboard SATA connector, using jungle flasher it should dump the key.bin, inquiry.bin and identifier.bin files right? If not is there any thing else needs soldering?

Thx
Ronaldo

[CoFree]

all you would have to solder is the r707 point
you would just use a small wire or a solder bridge of solder.
but
then you will have to make a com port for the drive a max3232 adapter
your computer will only flash in the sata cable the key comes out the com port cable.

[360fifa]

I dnt really understand, what exactly is a max3232 adapter. Also u said all i need to do is solder the r707 points, u mean the 2 points 1 at top and the 1 underneath? Also how can i make a com port? Also what about the TxD what do i do with that, i saw in another thread someone used a solder wire and he soldered the wire to the TxD and the end ran into the 4th hole under the solder points.

I have serial port on my pc, can i use a usb to serial cable by cutting the end of the usb, solder that part to somewhere on the drive mb so that it can read the .bin files? Or is the max3232 adapter purchasable at any local computer store?

Thx
Ronaldo

[sadalius]

To prepare the drive all you need to do is solder the r707 point. Thats the red line in the picture that you posted above directly behind where it's labeled R707. There are two solder points that looks like a resistor or something belongs there, but wasn't put it, thats the points that need soldered.

You need a serial port on your computer and some sort of RS232 TTL converter. You don't make a com port, your computer either comes with them, or you have to purchase a seperate card and install it. I recommend either a CK3 lite or a CK3 pro or Maximus 360 extractor. I would also recommend getting the probe or spear on either one so you wouldn't have to do any soldering what so ever. If you get the pro version, it has a serial to usb converter so you can get your key and such through windows. You have to have some sort of RS232 TTL converter like a CK3 to convert the voltage levels to their proper voltages so the serial communication can take place. Thats why you have to have a MAX3232 chip, that chip does that conversion, and is what the xtractor and ck3 connectivity kits use.

When you do a lite-on drive and have the serial port and sata port connected up, the request for the key.bin, identity.bin and inquiry.bin goes to the drive through the serial port, but the data gets returned across the sata port. Thats why you need the serial port stuff. Without it, you can't even think about doing a lite-on.

[360fifa]

Ok, I think i pretty much understand everything now, i did some reading today while i was at work. Before i thought that the max3232 was a device used to connect to my lite-on or an adapter by it self which would allow the flash. After reading i realized that the max3232 is an IC that converts the voltage.

I also found that i could pretty much create my own adapter, by getting 3 capacitors, the max3232, a serial male port and some other stuff which i dnt remember right now. I'm confident that i could make that device, and to be honest i want to, something about the adventure and the learning process. Even though i want to make it this guy i know owns a credit card and he said he could buy the ck3 and probe then when it comes I pay him back. I think I'm going to take up the offer but It would take about 2 weeks for them to come (2 WEEKS). I would really like a diy tut on how to create the hardware part that allows the dumping of the .bin files.

Thx
Ronaldo

[sadalius]

Most guys on this forum isn't that into it man. I've found diagrams online on making your own MAX3232 TTL converter so it shouldn't be all that difficult to find. I know it's not that difficult to do. In fact, if you go to the companies website that makes the MAX3232 chip, you can signup to get free samples sent to you. You have to be a little dishonest and tell them that your a business wanting to use their chips in a product that your developing, but they don't follow up on you or anything.

That been said, here is why most of us don't go that route. We want to leave the drive in it's original state as much as possible. In other words, if we don't have to solder it, we won't. We want that drive to look like it has never been touched before. The reasoning behind this should be kind of obvious without me going into it, but thats pretty much it. The xtractor and CK3 kits make it really easy and convenient too. With a DIY kit, you have to solder the kit to the drive with 4 wires. You can do it with 3 wires if you don't solder the RX line, but you have to solder in the + voltage, the ground, and the TX to get the job done. Not that it would be too difficult to do, just that the tell tell signs of the drive being touched would be present.

[360fifa]

i feel u, thing is i dnt mind the solder, to me its a learning process. I'm into electronics and computing, I would really like to do hardware and software engineering someday. The ting is products are hard to get in Jamaica, so i can't get to fool around as much as i would want. Little projects like these means a lot.

I did some research and i think i got how to do it. On the lite-on drive I would solder a wire from the TxD to the Rs232 adapter's tx point, from the RxD point to the rx, ground to ground and 3.3v to 5v. Alos i would solder the r707 point on the drive. What i'm not quiet sure tho is how to make a probe? Could u suggest a way or does it automatically dump after soldering up the hardware?

Thx
Ronaldo

[sadalius]

Well, in the communication world it wouldn't work like that. If you connected the TxD from the device to the drives TxD line and the RxD from the device to the drive RxD line, the chip would be transmitting and the drive would be transmitting, but they would both be talking on the same line. The same would be for the RxD, both devices would be listening, but not receive anything. Therefore you would need to connect the TxD from the device to the RxD of the drive and the RxD from the device to the RxD of the drive.

Now that being said, some companies actually take that into consideration when they build their chip and when they provide the pin out, they actually list the TxD and the RxD in reverse order so you might have to play around with those two connections to get it right. They do that to cut down on confusion, but in my opinion, it just complicates things. Basically, you would just connect them up and if it doesn't work, just reverse the TX and RX and try again.

Now, as for a probe, if you solder the tx, rx, ground and voltage lines, you actually won't need a probe because you would have completed all the connections. But if you wanted to get fancy, you wouldn't have to solder the drives TxD point (R707) at all or the RxD (R708) either. Once you figure out which line is TxD and RxD of the device, you could solder a safety pin or a small straightened out paper clip to the wire and use that as a probe. So all you would solder to the drive itself is the ground and voltage lines. Then when you got ready to get your key, identify and inquiry files just insert your "probe" into the R707 hole and click the get keys button on jungleflasher or use iprep either one and it should work.