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New dashboard USB support

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:56 pm
by dalecheesy
Documentation obtained by Joystiq – and subsequently confirmed with two separate sources – reveals that "USB Mass Storage Device Support on Xbox 360" will soon be a reality. The document, authored by a senior software development engineer at Microsoft, states that due to "increased market penetration of high-capacity, high throughput USB mass storage devices, a 2010 Xbox 360 system update" will allow consumers to save and load game data from USB devices. The update is purportedly coming in Spring 2010.

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Once the update occurs, Xbox 360 owners will be able to download Xbox Live Arcade games, Xbox Live Indie games, Games on Demand, DLC and Title Updates to the storage device. "USB storage devices may, however, have far greater memory capacity than MUs (at the date of writing, the largest MU is 512 MB), and may therefore support previously infeasible operations-such as installation of a full disc-based title." That's right, you can also store disc-based games to the USB device; however, it will require the disc to be in the tray for authentication, identical to the current functionality.

According to the document, the USB mass storage device must be at least 1GB and the system will do a compatibility check. "The system partition occupies 512 MB of space, and by default the consumer partition occupies the remainder of the device capacity, or 16 GB, whichever is smaller." Upon inserting a blank USB storage device, "consumers are offered two choices: 'Configure now' or 'Customize'." The "Configure now" option will use "the entire device capacity, up to the maximum of 512 MB plus 16 GB" meaning, regardless of the overall size of the device you're using, the Xbox will only enable 16 GB of usable, non-system storage. The "Customize" option will allow you to "preserve some pre-existing, non-console data on the device" such as music.

It should be clear by now that Microsoft is simply pulling out of the Memory Unit business and not the highly lucrative Xbox hard drive business. With an artificial cap of 16 GB – still shy of the 20 GB hard drive that shipped with the original 2005 Xbox Pro and a fraction the size of the currently shipping 120 GB hard drive – USB storage support simply removes the onerous requirement for a Memory Unit on Xbox 360 Arcade units, and brings the Xbox 360 platform a feature that's been present on the PlayStation 3 since that console's 2006 launch.

If you're intent on circumventing Microsoft's cutthroat hard drive pricing the Xbox 360, you can use two USB storage devices for a maximum of 32 GB of usable storage; however, the console "has a fixed limit of two external USB mass storage devices" regardless of whether they're "formatted for the Xbox 360 or not." If you fill all three USB ports on the console, only the first two to be connected will be recognized.

With talk of a new (slim?) form factor for the Xbox 360 picking up, and plans to abandon (or at least obviate) Memory Units underway, we're guessing those Memory Unit slots could be cut entirely from future iterations of the console.


Courtesy of Joystiq

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:15 pm
by HaGGardSmurf
Good news, but also bad news for online gaming. I bet cheating is going to go through the roof. I know loads of people who are dieing to mod a game, but cant get a hold of a transfer cable.

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:38 pm
by tonyuk73
HaGGardSmurf wrote:Good news, but also bad news for online gaming. I bet cheating is going to go through the roof. I know loads of people who are dieing to mod a game, but cant get a hold of a transfer cable.

do you ever hear of moding games on the ps3 :?:

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:59 pm
by MrMiscellaneous
Could we use external hard drives too?Or do you guys think the maximum would still be 32gb?

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:27 pm
by HaGGardSmurf
tonyuk73 wrote:
HaGGardSmurf wrote:Good news, but also bad news for online gaming. I bet cheating is going to go through the roof. I know loads of people who are dieing to mod a game, but cant get a hold of a transfer cable.

do you ever hear of moding games on the ps3 :?:
No why? I dont play much ps3.

@Miscellaneous

The max for a usb HDD would probably be 16 gb.

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:02 pm
by technoe
MrMiscellaneous wrote:Could we use external hard drives too?Or do you guys think the maximum would still be 32gb?
The article clearly states that any usb device will have a maximum capacity of 16GB + 512MB for system info. So you're best bet is to get a USB - microSD adapter and just swap microSD cards instead of entire USB adapters.

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:06 pm
by MrMiscellaneous
At least theyre finally releasing an actual great update.Most updates have just been minor but this one will be good

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:09 pm
by technoe
Yeah because I refuse to buy a MU!

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:57 pm
by nufcmickey
From all the speculation about the bans last year, I updated everything recently on a stock Liteon console then I flashed it. So what Im wondering will it be safe to update for this feature as if theres a little risk I will just leave it coz I wont use the feature anyway I have 2x120 gig HD. I dont see the use in it really tbh if youve already got a decent size HD.

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:20 pm
by HaGGardSmurf
nufcmickey wrote:From all the speculation about the bans last year, I updated everything recently on a stock Liteon console then I flashed it. So what Im wondering will it be safe to update for this feature as if theres a little risk I will just leave it coz I wont use the feature anyway I have 2x120 gig HD. I dont see the use in it really tbh if youve already got a decent size HD.
If your console has LT on it right now, theyre saying you should flash to stock, accept this update then flash back to LT, I dont know why but thats what I heard somewhere.

If your console is just stock and sitting offline, and your wondering if its worth the risk to plug into live and download this update, you can just download the update off xbox.com and do an offline update.

Re: New dashboard USB support

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:54 pm
by nufcmickey
No I sacked the flashing with LT and just used 1.61. I decided to myself that Bans are innevitable so it dont matter. Plus the ban only happened right after 1.61 was released so I carnt see how theyve figured that out. Ive been running it now for about 3 month and all good. 3 month is a good run when you think about it. But thats another story.

So basically I would have to flash back to stock and then update then flash back to CFW again right ? If thats the case I will just ignore the updates in future. It dont matter really.