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Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:56 pm
by BigPapa07
Hey guys, haven't had problems in a while, but now I'm back. I haven't seen this problem anywhere else on the internet, but I just got in from work, am tired, and angry to recieve this error again and again, so I might have overlooked it. So, I've backed up all of my games at this point, I use wxripper and just Dummy the third line so it looks like CDD. This has always worked in the past, but now with Army of Two, I get the Cyclic redundancy check data error on the 6th line (which is a copy). What could be the problem? Is the DVD I'm using too small? It is the same one I've always used (The Godfather). Any ideas or solutions? Thanks.

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:16 pm
by CoFree
the only place ive seen this is in textbook modding guide
you can get it here.
http://www.robinhoodsplayground.com/for ... =110&t=662

ive done the hotswap a few times just to learn how its done.
ive never had any trouble.
i have not tried with army of two.

let me know how it goes. ;)

One of the other guys may have some input.

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:22 pm
by BigPapa07
Ok, I'll check it out later on, I'm in the middle of moving, so I'm hoping not to be offline for too long. Thanks though man!

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:10 am
by BigPapa07
So far no good. I understand that you don't use this method much, because you have a much better way of doing, so thats alright, I'm keeping my fingers crossed someone has an answer.

I tried to Dummy the first 3 lines as opposed to just the 3rd and see if it helped, it didn't. So I took the CRC error from that try and found the number where the error occured, then split it into 2 parts, the first Copy all the way up to 1 before the error, and the rest was a Dummy right afterwards for the rest of it. This only gave me a pop-up error and asked me if I wanted to continue. Basically a bust. I am not seeing if the error occurs at the same spot when the 3rd line is Dummy as opposed to the first 3 lines being Dummy.

If anyone has any other suggestion, throw them at me, I'm catching all kinds of things right now.

EDIT: (No luck with anything I've tried so far)

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:27 am
by Sesshomaru
Not sure which firmware you are running on 360, but if it's Xtreme 3 or later, you might save some aggravation by ordering a drive capable of ripping original 360 games like the Samsung SH-D162C/SH-D163B. Then you could create a straight backup of your original games with Xbox Backup Creator or Schtrom's Xtract 360 that is fully Xtreme/iXtreme compatible. That would alleviate the need to switch discs with a Dual Layer over 8GB's and dissemble a DVD drive with the wxripper method.

The drives I mentioned are no longer manufactured, the best place to find them is on eBay. They run about $60. The SH-D162C is an IDE drive, the SH-D163B is a SATA drive. That solution costs a bit of money, but it will definitely save you some time and aggravation.

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:19 am
by CoFree
well if you have a sam drive or a benq you couyld flash the 0800 firmware in it and dump the game from you 360 dvd drive.

i have backed up that game with a sh-162c drive
so i know it will backup

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:14 am
by BigPapa07
Ok, first off, its a Hitachi :(

And secondly, now that I'm actually having some source of income, buying a new drive seems like a good road to go down.

It would be easiest for me to back the game up like I have been trying to do, so any information on this matter first would be awesome... but, if I was going to buy a drive, out of all the ones I've read about or you've mentioned, which would you recommend?

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:37 am
by Sesshomaru
Well if you are looking for the easiest way to backup 360 games, then a SH-D162C or SH-D163B is the way to go. Simply install it in your PC, flash it with Kreon's firmware, and then use Xbox Backup Creator or Schtrom's Xtract 360 to create a Xtreme or iXtreme iso, depending on which firmware you have. To create a iXtreme style iso, then leave the "create splitvid iso" option enabled. You will still need a Dual Layer burner to burn games, the SH-D162C and SH-D163B are DVD-ROM drives, not burners. Backups created from original games using modern versions of Xbox Backup Creator or Schtrom's are completely iXtreme compatible and Live-proof.

Which drive to get depends on what kind of connections you have available in your PC. The SH-D162C is a IDE drive. The SH-163B is a SATA drive.

CoFree's suggestion about picking up a spare 360 DVD-ROM and flashing it with the 0800 firmware is another possibility, though I believe replacement 360 drives are more expensive than either the SH-D162C or SH-D163B. I am under the impression that you are looking for a DVD-ROM capable of backing up original Xbox 360 games. In that case the drives I mentioned are the way to go. If you need a spare 360-DVD ROM drive, then his idea has merit.

Here is a guide for backing up 360 games with Xbox Backup Creator and ImgBurn.

http://www.xtreme-source.com/tutorials- ... games.html

Quick Guide to Flash Samsung SH-D162C or SH-D163B (thanks to timmeah2001 at xbox-scene):

1. Hook up Samsung SH-D162C to your PC.
2. Make sure there is no CD/DVD inside of the drive!!!
3. Start (doubleclick) sfdnwin.exe
4. Select drive from pulldownmenu: TSSTcorpDVD-ROM SH-D162CTS04
5. At the top left click "DOWNLOAD FILE OPEN"
6. Select file: SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V081.bin
7. At the top left click "START DOWNLOAD" (button in the middle)

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:19 pm
by BigPapa07
Wow man, thats a lot to process when I'm coming to terms with not being able to backup Army of Two for the time being ;)

Thanks though. Thats a lot of insight into the solution I guess I'm going to go with. I thought about getting a spare 360 drive before, (I've had mine since the beginning and have only had a slight problem with the lense which I was luckily able to fix myself), but decided that I didn't have the money to spend on it.

I think I'm going with the IDE drive. Thanks for lending me your expertise on the subject man, its really been a help.

Re: Army of Two Backup problem (crc data error)

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:58 pm
by CoFree
to add to that you can find the sh-d162c dvd drive with the v100 firmware flashed in it .
there are some good backup guides here also.
http://www.robinhoodsplayground.com/for ... =110&t=117
http://www.robinhoodsplayground.com/for ... =110&t=113


Sesshomaru
your right xtreme-source has some good guides.
i would like for you to at least post the link to the guide that is here on robinhoodsplayground
the staff and I have put a lot of work and time into making a good strait forward guide.
there are many things that come up we dont have a guide for in that case fill free to link to any place that offers help.