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Copying a Backup?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:20 pm
by ogameaddict
Haven't seen anyone ask this question yet, what if my original 360 game gets trashed and I don't have the ISO backed up on my PC, but I do have a backup copy on a DVD-DL is there a way to copy a backup? Or do you just use the regular method like it was an original?
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:35 pm
by CoFree
well first let me link you to this.
http://www.robinhoodsplayground.com/for ... f=13&t=311
now that being said.
i guess as long as you have the broke orig disc.
If it was me I would just use cloneCD >copy on the fly>disc to disc
that will do the trick.
dont miss understand, I'm no one baby sitter.
but you may not get much help from the other guys on things like that.

Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:32 pm
by ogameaddict
I appreciate it, and that wasn't a rhetorical question, I do not plan to copy games that I do not already own. But I keep all of the games regardless of how scratched they may be if only to prove to the FBI someday that Im not guilty of piracy

Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:44 am
by Sesshomaru
You can copy a backup with just about any DVD program and DL writer. Remember that the iso created from the backup is only as good as your original backup. In other words if your original backup is not fully stealth, then the iso created from it is not either.
I just use ImgBurn in read mode and burn it in write mode to make a backup of a backup. The Layer Break should already be included in the iso when creating a backup of a backup after doing a read with ImgBurn. You can create a dvd file manually and load it into ImgBurn before burning the iso in case you want to be sure.
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:18 am
by parminder
i did try this once just to see if it works and it does, i use imgburn and read backup at 6x and then burn at 4x, tried it with 2 games and works fine, destroyed it soon afterwards as i got some cheap disk and didnt really need it. but it is illeagal to make more than one backup of a original so do keep that in mind.
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:47 am
by ogameaddict
Well now I see what Cofree's concern was for, I was unaware that it was illegal to make more than 1 backup
thats valuable info thanks
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:29 am
by sadalius
If legalities is what you want to discuss, then in the US you have to consider the DMCA. The DMCA trumps the Fair Use act in the fact that the Fair Use act allows us to make one backup copy of any software title that we own. The DMCA adds to that by saying that sure, you can have said single copy back up as long as the original was not copy protected. Circumvention of copy protection is whats so illegal about it. I'm not sure about what the laws are in other countries, but I would imagine that if they don't have something similar, they soon will have.
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:43 am
by Sesshomaru
Which leads to idiocy like it's legal to backup your own DVD's and software, except the process of backing up the disc is illegal. Under that interpretation it's legal to possess a backup of a movie or game you won, but the process of backing it up is illegal. The DMCA is one of the most confusing, poorly constructed legal documents in recent memory.
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:04 am
by CoFree
Sesshomaru wrote:Which leads to idiocy like it's legal to backup your own DVD's and software, except the process of backing up the disc is illegal. Under that interpretation it's legal to possess a backup of a movie or game you won, but the process of backing it up is illegal. The DMCA is one of the most confusing, poorly constructed legal documents in recent memory.
well said
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:36 am
by sadalius
The books are full of crazy crap like the DMCA. Whats bad is they add more and more to the books every day that are just as crazy.
Re: Copying a Backup?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:43 am
by parminder
Sesshomaru wrote:Which leads to idiocy like it's legal to backup your own DVD's and software, except the process of backing up the disc is illegal. Under that interpretation it's legal to possess a backup of a movie or game you won, but the process of backing it up is illegal. The DMCA is one of the most confusing, poorly constructed legal documents in recent memory.
it is a bit confusing because how would you have a backup in the first place then because it is also illegal to get it from someone else as you have to have it yourself. well discussion about this goes very far.