More Info from C4Eva: AP2.5 Trigger, SSv3, Activate AP2.5, R

[stutterman]

>> C4Eva talked a bit more about the new AP2.5 (Anti-Piracy v2.5) protection and answered some questions in #FW@EFnet.

[+c4eva] just a word of warning on the sed "disc swap" [note x-s: see our x360SED v1.0 news], although this passes the timing check, ap25 also returns data from its check which will be wrong with the wrong disk and will get you banned!

[+c4eva] the trigger for ap25 is still being investigated, but assume a list of titles of some sort or some check, not the xex!
[+c4eva] no ap25 traffic was ever logged with fifa 09

[**] c4eva, it is known yet whether AP2.5 can flag you in an offline state?
[+c4eva] **:yes it can
[+c4eva] console flag

[***] SSv3 just for ap2.5 games or all others?
[+c4eva] ssv3 will be required for any game that activates ap25

[****] c4eva: does that mean old games that dont have ap25, that we burned, as ssv2 are safe?
[+c4eva] ****:yes

[*****] c4eva do you think it is possible that they activate ap25 with a title update on old games?
[+c4eva] possible

[*****] c4eva is it a bad idea playing a retail ap25 game on current fw too ?
[*****] well obv. for new dash
[+c4eva] *****:should be fine

[turbomcp]

should this be a problem for somebody that never played online and never will and has the latest firmware installed(1.1)?

[bsammy]

will one be able to play kinect w/out taking the update?

[CoFree]

should this be a problem for somebody that never played online and never will and has the latest firmware installed

well as long as you dont go on live then you cant be banned
but if you have the update you wont be able to play games that have the ap25 check till you have the new firmware C4 is working on
keep in mind that the ap25 checks only work on the benq and liteon dvd drive
if you have a samsun or a older hit you should be fine
from what im hearing

will one be able to play kinect w/out taking the update?

i dont think so
but im not 100% on that

[HaGGardSmurf]

I would think you'd need the update to use kinect.

[moonknight]

Frig, played Fable 3 on my modded system, offline. Does that mean the console will be flagged for ban when I connect, or can I just format the hard drive and recover my membership? (ie, where is the flag stored?) I do not have the newest dash installed.

[CoFree]

i think you should be fine
because you dont have the new update
the console flag could be on the console
but it also could be on some live server that keeps track of questionable consoles

if it has been flagged theirs no hope its just a matter of time

[southbound]

I heard as soon as you put a game in your console, if it's not abg vertified or whether it is, that information stores to a chip on the xbox 360 and when you connect to live, M$ process that information. So, maybe some how they can tell that you've played fable 3 with the same method of storing game information to whatever chip.

If this is the case though, i wouldn't play non-vertified games on the box you plan to connect to live at some point either.

Note: This is just what i heard, could be a load of old cobblers.