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Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:00 pm
by CoFree
More on LIVE Bans, HDD Crippling, Possible Ban Causes
>> Kushan wrote a nice little article on #FW@EFnet summarizing all kinda info we have about the current (still ongoing) Console Live Ban Wave:

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- What does this mean for you and what can you do about it?
Firstly, and most obviously, you cannot connect to Xbox Live on this console any more. This means no more game updates (aka title updates), XBLA games, marketplace content, netflix/sky player and so on. There is no way around this, all online capabilities are now disabled PERMANENTLY.

In all likelihood, your gamertag has NOT BEEN BANNED. When your gamertag gets banned, Microsoft sends you an email detailing why, if you have not recieved this email then your profile should be ok, to a certain extent.

Hard Drive installs are now disabled on the banned console. This means any disk-based games you have will no longer play off of the hard drive. If you attempt to play a game, it will tell you that it was installed on a different 360 and needs to be deleted/installed again. When you delete the game and attempt to install it, you are given a message telling you that it is not supported. There is no way to fix this, that functionality is simply gone from the banned 360.

The hard drive itself is left untouched - you can place it in another 360, even an unbanned one, and it will still work just fine. You do NOT need to reformat it to regain any kind of functionality. Any installed games will need to be reinstalled for the console you want to play them on. This is normal behaviour and happens when swapping HDDs on unbanned/legit 360's.

Windows Media Centre functionality is disabled. It is still possible to stream video/music content via the video library.

Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this.

The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either.

Your XBLA games and DLC will still be valid, however to play them on a different 360 you will need to be signed into Xbox Live. This is normal behaviour on unbanned/legit 360's as well. They may be corrupted and have to be re-downloaded if you attempt to access them on a banned 360. You can transfer all of your downloaded content to a new 360 here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/syste ... efault.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; however note that you can only do it once every 12 months.

So, in summary:
Your Banned 360:
* Cannot go on Xbox Live
* Cannot install games to the HDD
* Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender
* Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile

You cannot do anything about this, short of buying a new 360.

There may be more functionality disabled than mentioned here, things are still being discovered.


- So what caused my ban?
There are MANY theories as to what is causing so many consoles to get banned this time, however as of yet there is nothing concrete, just a lot of circumstantial evidence and speculation. Please do not add to this, a full investigation is under-way.

c4eva, the main guy behind iXtreme, had this to say:
<+c4eva> fw itself not detectable
<+c4eva> suspect they are going hard on warez releases and incorrect use of abgx!

He also added the following:
<+c4eva> just to let you know that im looking into the current ban wave. I am currently running several brand new xboxs on live! These xboxs are in various configs. All are running ixtreme 1.61
<+c4eva> One is running original discs, another is running on xbl (no discs) , another is running a backup from my region!
<+c4eva> until tests are completed, no eta on liteon fw!

When we know more, YOU'LL no more, so please do not ask for updates!
A full transcript is available here - http://pastebin.ca/1660777" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remember, if you really want to blame someone, blame the person that decided to modify your 360 in the first place - most likey, that would be you ;
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Guys this is a must read.
All other threads about the live banning will be locked (Staff lets get on this )
Post about bans will only be allowed in this Thread.
All other will be locked or trashed.
Do not make a post just to say you have been banned.If you think you have some new or relevant information,then by all mean let us know.

This is the most up to date info we have right now.


I understand that many of you are upset
if you would like to vent your anger
fill free to start a thread in the "Outhouse Thread" area
and
Bitch till you can't type any more.


CoFree

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:04 pm
by djshauny1
Yeah ive just been reading into this
Thanks for the info tho man

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:09 pm
by cainhunpi
read this like 5 min ago, but it is still good news

If they are not detecting FW, but only the drive response to disks.

I have 2 xboxes flashed. I am going to run one on Xbox live with no drive in it to see what happens

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:10 pm
by technoe
Good stuff, hopefully someone can make heads or tails out of this!

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:12 pm
by CoFree
well
it is being worked on
that is all any one can ask

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:17 pm
by conan281
i just got banned yesterday i think it was because i was showing my friends back ups of my games on a video chat thats the only thing i could think of as of now this is my second ban and i hope not to get banned again when i get a new xbox bu im going wait out the ban wave and good luck to all of you guys i hope for the best and dont get banned

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:54 pm
by convict0
thanx much for the info

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:56 pm
by after_burners
glad some of the posts have been locked. its good that ppl r talking bout it as we may all learn something. but they seemed to b sprining up all over the place. yeah ive been banned we all no the risks and should accept that if we get banned thats it. maybe 1 day there'll b a way to unban consoles but until then......

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:58 pm
by daqid
i've been reading around on different forums and some people have said they got banned after flashing to 1.61 and they didn't even get a chance to put any game in period, just seconds after being on the dashboard. one guy stated that he got his legit non modified xbox banned and microsoft said that they didn't have to tell him why. i don't know whats going on but i'm sticking with 1.51 for now.

have anyone got banned patching wave 4 to wave 3. i know everyone said that thats a sure way to get banned but has anyone actually tried it?

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:00 pm
by tonyuk73
it got me today..here is the link for checking out my x-box stats...http://www.robinhoodsplayground.com/for ... 101&t=9224 nice post mrCoFree

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:07 pm
by kantamanto
daqid wrote: i don't know whats going on but i'm sticking with 1.51 for now.


lol dude what are you saying 1.51 is invincible? lol i was banned with 1.51 hit 79 drive in a heart beat right after i unplugged my dvd drive from my computer and put it back into my xbox360 and hit LIVE i was banned lol so dont worry your time will come thats why i always keep a space console UN-MODDED.

but anywho, thx for the UPDATE and info i know there is a way around this and no one can tell me theres not, i remember when the lite-on drives came out no one knew what to do!

there were the only drive up to date that was unmod-able no look at it, we have freakin probes and all!

so just give it time soon faster than you know it, we will all be playing online with all our favorite burnt games on out modded xbox 360s and will continue to live life to its fullest!

All that is required is to sit back and wait for the next update, im sure the next update will be a tutorial on how to get around this so we can get back to burning games!!

thx again for the info bro!

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:29 pm
by daqid
kantamanto wrote:
daqid wrote: i don't know whats going on but i'm sticking with 1.51 for now.


lol dude what are you saying 1.51 is invincible? lol i was banned with 1.51 hit 79 drive in a heart beat right after i unplugged my dvd drive from my computer and put it back into my xbox360 and hit LIVE i was banned lol so dont worry your time will come thats why i always keep a space console UN-MODDED.

wait, 1.15 is getting banned too? i'm still burning 3rd wave games and i haven't been banned yet. i thought it was just wave 4 games that was getting people banned. maybe i should slow down, but i still got 17 verbatims left lol.

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:01 pm
by kantamanto
daqid wrote:
kantamanto wrote:
daqid wrote: i don't know whats going on but i'm sticking with 1.51 for now.


lol dude what are you saying 1.51 is invincible? lol i was banned with 1.51 hit 79 drive in a heart beat right after i unplugged my dvd drive from my computer and put it back into my xbox360 and hit LIVE i was banned lol so dont worry your time will come thats why i always keep a space console UN-MODDED.

wait, 1.15 is getting banned too? i'm still burning 3rd wave games and i haven't been banned yet. i thought it was just wave 4 games that was getting people banned. maybe i should slow down, but i still got 17 verbatims left lol.


lol yup there getting banned faster than any other dive if you ask me! i was banned while playing Madden 10 on 1.51 so i guess yup

but i just seen a tutorial on youtube on how to Un ban your console i dont know if its real or not but i will make a thread on it..

were do you live?

im in the United States Philadlephia,PA

you will be banned soon. or maybe not, maybe the ban wave is over? who knows! but your lucky...For now...

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:10 pm
by tonyuk73
daqid wrote:
kantamanto wrote:
daqid wrote: i don't know whats going on but i'm sticking with 1.51 for now.


lol dude what are you saying 1.51 is invincible? lol i was banned with 1.51 hit 79 drive in a heart beat right after i unplugged my dvd drive from my computer and put it back into my xbox360 and hit LIVE i was banned lol so dont worry your time will come thats why i always keep a space console UN-MODDED.

wait, 1.15 is getting banned too? i'm still burning 3rd wave games and i haven't been banned yet. i thought it was just wave 4 games that was getting people banned. maybe i should slow down, but i still got 17 verbatims left lol.
check this out..http://www.robinhoodsplayground.com/for ... 101&t=9224

Re: Ban Wave

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:14 pm
by daqid
i live in washington nc. not too many people around her knows anything about modding consoles. most of them are rich and just buy the games again if they break lol. i hope i don't get banned.