Xbox Original Copies Safe For Live?

[NeoRio]

CoFree...just yesterday I read a post from you (I think it was a tutorial), but I can't for the life of me find it right now. Anyways...at the very bottom you wrote in big letters that "under no circumstance would you EVER play one of these copies on Live".

Is there something inherently different with Xbox Original copies as opposed to 360 copies that would make them unsafe to play on Live?

Thanks

[CoFree]

i have been looking into that more.
right now i make all mine on a DL disc which is way off from the orig disc and there is no way i would play them on live.

but i read that if you have a sam and benq drive you can now burn them on a dvd-r disc.that would make it better but,i still would not play them on live.
i have not conformed the single layer disc for backup yet
im looking into it.

[NeoRio]

OK, sounds like Xbox Origin als are not Live-proof. But I have been of the opinion (be it the uneducated opinion) that the HD itself on a 360 could also contain info that a bad ripped game was played on it, when it saves game data...so that later when you sign into Live, it gives out info on the HD that a bad copy was played (thus explaining many Live bans by people who never played copies on Live but got banned anyways). Since the Xbox Original games can only be played on a 360 with a HD (true, right?--does the HD have to be connected in order to play the Xbox Original game?)--it would seem to me that there is some risk involved even if not connected to Live?--if the Xbox Original game would be saving data to the HD?

[CoFree]

ye[ you are right.
there is more than that.
the console has memory itself
kind of like a flash drive.
there is no telling what that may hold.
you do have to have a hd to play xbox game on the 360

[Enraging Chaos]

DVD-R discs for just Xbox originals or for both Xbox AND Xbox 360?

I have a Samsung drive...is why I ask.

[CoFree]

DVD-R discs for just Xbox originals or for both Xbox AND Xbox 360?

I have a Samsung drive...is why I ask.

not sure what your asking.
all the xbox1 backups ive done
ive burned on a DL dvd+r for play on my 360.

[Enraging Chaos]

With the firmware all backups must be on DL DVD+R, correct?

There's no way DVD+R would work! That would be too convenient and cheap...

[CoFree]

man im not sure.
ive read that on some drives you can use a dvd-r for xbox1 backup.
ive not had time to try.

ive been working on the xbins guide.
now that the auto luncher wont work.

[sadalius]

When making a backup game of any kind for the 360 they need to be on DL disks. No single layer disks will work on the 360. Xbox Backup Creator when used with an SH-D162C drive will work to make a backup of an Xbox1 game, but it will be on a dual layer disk, just like a 360 game. On the original xbox, when its modded, it's wide open, meaning that nothing has to be signed to run. The 360 has not been hacked to that point yet so it still needs everything to be signed. The process of making an xbox1 backup like the way we used to do, breaks that signature because it's being taken down from a DVD9 to a DVD5. This is why everything on the 360 needs to be dual layered, everything must be in place and in their proper positions on the disk for it to boot.

[Enraging Chaos]

When making a backup game of any kind for the 360 they need to be on DL disks. No single layer disks will work on the 360. Xbox Backup Creator when used with an SH-D162C drive will work to make a backup of an Xbox1 game, but it will be on a dual layer disk, just like a 360 game. On the original xbox, when its modded, it's wide open, meaning that nothing has to be signed to run. The 360 has not been hacked to that point yet so it still needs everything to be signed. The process of making an xbox1 backup like the way we used to do, breaks that signature because it's being taken down from a DVD9 to a DVD5. This is why everything on the 360 needs to be dual layered, everything must be in place and in their proper positions on the disk for it to boot.

Thanks! Good info that is need to know! Anyone else have problems finding Verbatims? I only know about Best Buy...sccrbrandon4788 and I get a discount on them so there's no sense in looking other places for them. But our store and the other store in this city carry the max of two 15 disc bundles...wtf? Is it like that everywhere else? Hopefully DL comes down in price now that Blu-Ray has won out...but production costs is what matters...

[sadalius]

BD disks really has nothing to do with the cost of Dual Layer disks. Production costs for DL disks are high because there isn't that much of a demand for them. Believe me, they have come down in price though. Not a real long time ago, they were sold in a single disk pack for around 30-40 bucks each. Now you can get them for a couple of bucks each. But the demand is no where near like that of a single layer disk so companies are readily setup to produce them. It's all a supply and demand thing really.