BPI Wants File Sharers Disconnected, Virgin ISP Refuses

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BPI Wants File Sharers Disconnected, Virgin ISP Refuses

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BPI Wants File Sharers Disconnected, Virgin ISP Refuses
by: Tom Corelis
Music industry and ISP at odds over what to do with known P2P users
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UK ISP Virgin Media, in a joint partnership with the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), has thus far sent out 800 letters to file sharers to inform them of the consequences should they continue. Packaged in envelopes that said, “Important: If you don’t read this, your broadband could be disconnected,” the letters seeks to dissuade users from file-sharing under the threat of losing their internet accounts.

Luckily for them, however, Virgin doesn’t seem to want to follow through.

The wording of the letter is a mistake, says Virgin, and it plans to review the letters sometime in August. Speaking with BBC Radio’s Newsbeat, a Virgin representative said that there was “absolutely no possibility” they would disconnect accounts that the BPI has linked to filesharing.

“It is important to let our customers know that their accounts have been used in a certain way but we are happy to accept it may not be the account holder that's involved,” said Virgin representative Asam Ahmad.

“It could be someone else in the family or someone living in a shared house. It could even be someone stealing WiFi. We are not making any form of accusation.”

Customers’ responses have been far from warm -- many have accused the BPI’s investigations of being inaccurate, and others have indicated that they are not happy with being ratted out.

“I suppose it is possible that someone accessed our wireless network from outside the flat but, beyond that, it definitely wasn't one of us,” said one of the recipients. “The campaign is doomed to fail. Virgin will lose a lot of customers over this because people don't like to be accused of stealing music.”

The BPI says it is serious enough to take the matter to court, and the UK government has set a deadline of next spring for ISPs and music companies to reach an accord before it steps in.
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Virgin need to keep a lid on banning because over & above wifi being hijacked it is also possible to hack the virgin network & use gold / silver & bronze accounts on modified modems - this basicly means there is no way of proving who is using the account - only who is paying for it!!

I myself am a legitimate virgin customer but I do know how to hack & modify the modems - it's also possible to hack there TV service...

A massive security hole in the infrastructure Virgin inherited when they purchased the network & company NTL (formaly: Diamond Cable) & seem unable to reverse!
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I'm sure they could fix the hole.
They just don't want to spend the money it would take. :D
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CoFree wrote:I'm sure they could fix the hole.
They just don't want to spend the money it would take. :D
yeah - It would mean revamping the whole network // completly changing the authentication process - big bucks :o

I'm sure it would cost them a hell of lot more to do that than they currently lose - my point being tho that they are not in a position to accuse anybody of activities because they know there network can be exploited.. there reference point for data packets is the 'mac address' tied to the subscribing account holder & thats where the xploit is ;)
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MsK wrote:my point being tho that they are not in a position to accuse anybody of activities because they know there network can be exploited
Sounds like the Microsoft business model. Just replace the word network with operating system.

This is a giant black hole that no ISP wants to jump into. Once it is finagled to where anti-piracy groups and organizations that represent intellectual copyright holders can get Joe Blow's ISP records, it's all downhill. No one will surf the web in a world where they are one RIAA cease and desist letter from having their ISP records turned over to Virgin or BMG. This is at least one area where the DMCA gets it right, media companies and anti-piracy groups have no way to get someone's ISP records without a court order. Only government agencies have access to ISP records. I wonder how the CEO of BMG would feel if his ISP records were leaked for the world to see?
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